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Kevin Leighton
APA Office Manager
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 Posted - 09/10/2009 : 12:13:12 PM
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aimeek
New Member
91 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2009 : 2:34:02 PM
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| I liked the idea of taking the week of Cities off. However, I do not like it at the expense of the week break at the end of each session. I always hope we finish in first so we have even more of a break. On the business side of that for the host locations, no break would be great. On play-off weeks and the week off we are like a ghost town compared to the chaos during regular weeks. I think the players need that break though each session. |
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Bullwinkle
Junior Member
118 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2009 : 2:53:57 PM
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Amy,I have to AGREE with you 100%.I think we NEED the week OFF between sessions.My GOD people,we're looking at what would amount to a YEAR ROUND SESSION.Give us a BREAK PLEASE.
May the MOST, you wish for be the LEAST, you get !!!! |
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schermy01
New Member
59 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2009 : 12:08:27 PM
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| How about instead of the "weeks off" between sessions, you institute a year-round schedule, but offer the weeks off during the sessions, as bye weeks, for instance during the week of July 4th (Independence Day), the week of Labor Day, and the week of Memorial Day, as most people with lives outside of pool, tend to go away and take holidays those weeks. Keep the weeks off in December exactly like they are, knock out the other weeks off, but make up for it by putting in some needed bye weeks during the session. Right now, the only way any of my teams get a bye is when there's an odd number of teams. For a 14-week session of league play, this is riduculous. |
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mlfield
New Member
98 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2009 : 1:22:46 PM
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I don't think the year-round league being on the same team will work. They would have to redo the number of matches you need to qualify, how and when you add/drop player, etc. And some people may decide that the team their on is not for them. But when and how do you leave one team and join another? Just some questions to think about.
Playing cue: Kwikfire KF3 w/Predator 314-2 shaft & Everest tip.
Break cue: Kwikfire Jump/Break cue w/Icebreaker tip.
Case: Predator
Chalk: Blue Diamond |
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aimeek
New Member
91 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2009 : 4:35:31 PM
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| I totally agree with you Mike. I just do not think that year round play would work out. This topic was brought up in another area and like I said there, the Cities to qualify all the teams would be a nightmare. Then if there is a problem with a team, you only have to deal with it for 14-16 weeks, not for an entire year. The qualifying would change to only 4 times to be qualified and with all the crying already about players not playing to their full potential, just imagine what only 4 times in 1 year would do!!! Once again I would like to say, If it is not broke, don't fix it!! I think we would lose players if we go to a year round schedule. |
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Bullwinkle
Junior Member
118 Posts |
Posted - 09/20/2009 : 1:01:01 PM
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I cannot believe this.ONLY 43 REPLYS.APA members,you'd better read these posts.This is a VERY IMPORTANT POLL that Kevin has put up here.THINK about it PEOPLE.PLEASE ANSWER THIS POLL.It is a VERY HUGE DEAL.Answer ,of course the way you think you'd like to have it,but we have AROUND 5000 APA members in the Charlotte Metro,and only 43 replys.CMON guys,KT and her WHOLE STAFF,especially Kevin,will be listening to griping from now on if you don't reply to this the way you'd LIKE to see it.OMG....KEVIN,can you help us out here ? Could you start a NEW POST some where,and some how,ASK this AGAIN.I know you guys at the office know which post are read the most,so even if it is out of place,PLEASE put up ANOTHER POST on this.We seriously need more than 43 replys for you guys to change anything.I can ONLY HOPE,you will take that into consideration B4 you make ANY DRASTIC CHANGES.Which will affect all of us.I know you're NOT going to PLEASE every one,but we do need a fair amount of input here to make any changes.PLEASE look at aimee's post.WE ALL AGREE WITH THAT.We actually look forward to a break between sessions., we NEED IT.14 weeks , plus playoffs,if you have to,is a very drulling thing to do.I think,as Amy does that those who make it straight to the cities REALLY look FORWARD to spending some relaxing time with thier spouse,or even taking a quick vacation....PLEASE KEVIN,put up a new post,SOME WHERE,with this poll.Please don't punish,or if the case be,make 4967 APA players with which amounts to us as ,A LIFE CHANGING SCHEDULE.
Bullwinkle
May the MOST, you wish for be the LEAST, you get !!!! |
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mlfield
New Member
98 Posts |
Posted - 09/20/2009 : 4:40:35 PM
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I am not sure what percentage of APA members even look on the site and I know some that don't own computers so your not going to get even half of the members to vote online. If the office is seriously thinking about changing the breaks they will/should put a ballot out one week and let everyone vote like that. But I do have to say that if I want to take a night off to be at home or take a week away from the APA to take a vacation then I will do that without hesitation. That's why we have 8 players per team.
Playing cue: Kwikfire KF3 w/Predator 314-2 shaft & Everest tip.
Break cue: Kwikfire Jump/Break cue w/Icebreaker tip.
Case: Predator
Chalk: Blue Diamond |
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The Table Pro
Junior Member
104 Posts |
Posted - 09/20/2009 : 4:52:45 PM
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Before voting, I would like to see full disclosure on the affect of adjusting schedules. Would taking the week of cities off each session shorten the amount of time off between sessions? Or, would league go to 12 or 13 week sessions?
To clarify, these were ONLY questions, NOT suggestions!
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taylored12345
Starting Member
12 Posts |
Posted - 09/20/2009 : 6:11:57 PM
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| The question here is to take off the week of the cities and to reduce the time between the regular sessions. At no time has anyone suggested that we should change the number of weeks in a session which would affect the income of the host locations and the league. Making the change to being off the week of the cities would eliminate pre-playing matches and create less confusion and disruption of regular session play than trying to play regular matches during "cities" week . KT and her staff operate a 1st class league and a 1st class tournament @ the "cities" and I only personnally want to be able to enjoy that to the fullest without affecting regular league play. |
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mlfield
New Member
98 Posts |
Posted - 09/20/2009 : 6:24:48 PM
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Well, for my two-cents worth, I would like to see us take the week off during the cities no matter how we have to do it. I agree with Eddie that it should be something to be shared and enjoyed by the entire league and not leave some behind just for the sake of keeping that week going. I know KT and staff know that nobody is knocking their expertise in running this league. I think this decision to modify the schedule is long overdue.
Playing cue: Kwikfire KF3 w/Predator 314-2 shaft & Everest tip.
Break cue: Kwikfire Jump/Break cue w/Icebreaker tip.
Case: Predator
Chalk: Blue Diamond |
Edited by - mlfield on 09/20/2009 6:25:43 PM |
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roger keene
Starting Member
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Posted - 09/30/2009 : 1:04:57 PM
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 Ok sports fans here goes. We take the week off of the cities and one at the end of December. If you want to take a week off or two you should be able too.That is why you have 8 people on the team. Any questions??
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Richard Lorch
Starting Member
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Posted - 01/09/2010 : 1:10:21 PM
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It would be very rewarding to the league and everyone in the league to be off during each of the city tournaments. #1 reason: Members are not having to preplay and postplay matches. This is a disadvantage to all teams involved because a team does not have the availability of playing a particular player in the regular scheduled match because they are tied up playing in the preplaying or postplaying of a match. Sure, you may say that it is the same disadvantage for every team, but, bottom line, it disrupts every teams true potential for that particular week, and will change the results in the final session standings. #2 reason: It will be a blessing to the league management. They will be able to concentrate on the cities. Management will not have to take weeks to get caught up with the scoresheets. Teams would not have to take weeks to make up the matches for that week. (In the past, teams had to preplay all matches, but now, teams are allowed to take as long as they choose because it is not inforced any more. A timeline mandate should be installed or all remaining matches are forfeited by both teams involved.) It is a disadvantage for all teams to have preprinted scoresheets that have handicapps that are not true for players that are on the border line of going up or down and not playing at there true handicapp for that particular week that could change their handicapps for future matches, which in turn, change the session ending results. It is also a disadvantage to preplay a match because that preplayed match also could involve handicapps that may or not be the same as if played with regular updated information. Some teams begin playing a week before the "cities" and not finishing until weeks later. Some of those matches will be played with outdated handicapps. #3 reason: Some teams may have only 1 or 2 players that may be playing in the tournaments on other teams, therefore, may not choose to preplay or postplay a particular match, but it still disrupts that particular teams true potential for that week. #4 reason: As stated by another member, it would be nice for everyone to have the availability to go and enjoy the city tournaments instead of having to spend their night playing their scheduled matches on Mon., Tues., Wed., and Thurs. nights.
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Edited by - Richard Lorch on 01/09/2010 1:28:32 PM |
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mrsroberts0729
New Member
50 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2010 : 6:14:22 PM
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As a team member who is on a team going to the cities in a couple of weeks, and also has a life outside of pool that consists of children, work, school and other obligations, I can unequivocally state that having the week of the cities off from regular league play would be fantastic. It is one less thing I have to juggle that week, or stress over the weeks leading up to and after the cities. Our team is very diligent about preplaying as much as possible and quickly finishing up matches for that week, but it is such an ordeal. Our teams, 8 and 9 ball, share quite a few common players. Since we are playing Wed & Thur nights at the cities, we will be absent from both of the nights we regularly play. The opposing teams are not always willing to preplay matches, especially when it has to be done on a night other than our regularly scheduled matches (playing Monday instead of Wednesday) due to table availability. We play in locations that are overfilled with teams and there are not extra tables to play additional matches on the nights we play. This means that our team members have to take another night away from their families to come play make-up or preplay matches for the cities. I have to miss school, which puts my education at risk. And like I said before, many of the opposing teams we have encountered over the years are not willing to rearrange their lives just because we are going to the cities (sour grapes on their part because they aren't going to the cities). It's sad, but true.
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GAME_BRED
Junior Member
122 Posts |
Posted - 01/13/2010 : 6:22:19 PM
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Getting extra time off between sessions is a huge motivational factor for winning the division. If there wasn't a big Christmas break + div winner bonus 2 weeks off I'm not sure I, and my team, would play 2 nights a week. Seriously at 2 times a week + 1 Sat a month + Cities x 1, 2 or 3 times a year that is a LOT of free time devoted to pool. I realize many of you eat, drink and sleep pool but for many of us it is a hobby, not a way of life.
I agree 4 weeks of Cities does cut into league play but PLEASE do not take away our "vacation time" between sessions!
Amy
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mrsroberts0729
New Member
50 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2010 : 1:07:17 PM
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While I can understand people feeling that they have very little time off between sessions now or feel like they are giving too much time to pool as it is, please understand that playing and the time you give is a CHOICE, one you made freely. I make my choice to stay on my teams 2 nights a week, knowing that it gives me more to juggle in an already busy life. My only problem is when the choice I made creeps into days and times I did not commit to the cause. For example, the host location where I play 9 ball was closed for Thanksgiving, pushing all of us off by 1 week. We were playing the last round of the playoffs 2 days before Christmas. This was not my choice and it interfered with the personal lives of quite a few teams. These are the situations that can be, and should be, avoided as much as possible. The same principle should apply to all foreseeable situations, including the cities. I have committed my time and my ability to 2 nights a week, plus cities, for my teams. I have not committed additional nights because they do not fit into my schedule. If they did and I were willing to give up the extra time, I would be on more teams.
Speaking of which, I also know people who play on 4+ teams per session and trying to schedule make-up matches with multiple team members who have other teams also in the cities is extremely difficult. Having that week off would be easier for so many teams, players, and captains.
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